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    Vitamins/Medics for better breeding results

    Please advice for best vitamins or medicines currently available in Pakistan for getting good breeding results. For the last three clutches from my almost all parrots; the result of hatching is only 25-35% (5 eggs and 1-2 successful).
    Only English budgies giving 80% results.

    I need details along with price and output/results. For the coming at least 6 months season will be very suitable for breeding birds in North of Pakistan.
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    First of all u need to check for the pair compatibility...they should be well bonded,healthy and totally unrelated unless u r trying to establish specific line in EB's.
    Let them choose their partner by natural mate selection...
    fertility depends on both sexes but more on male bird..one mating fertiles several eggs...females have natural ability to store sperms upto 14 days in her body..so u need to increase the sperm count in males by adding high protein diets which r also rich in zinc..zinc promotes the healthy sperm production and increase the counts..Dont forget to trim the feathers around vents of both male and female..it encourages the more absorption of sperms in each mating..quantity of eggs is totally depend on female..and it is hereditary ..some females only release 2-3 egg down to their oviduct and some females r huge layers..u need to know which female is huge layer and good incubator and keep the line maintained by keeping some of her youngsters..same as cock which is more fertile keep its male chicks...
    Now pair is ready..check for its sorrounding..any thing which can distract them from mating,nesting or incubating should be avoided..when u feel female is about to lay daily check the box/matki without stressing bird too much and when u find first egg stop checking the box for next 14 days and let her finish clutch..increase the vitamins/ calcium intake by mixing some in water..Below is the list of some remedies which i used to increase hatchability rate in birds..

    Cytacon syrup(vitamin b 12)-----costs 20-25 rs.
    faraminovit (vitamins)100 gm----costs 200-225rs
    permasol (optional)----------------------170-200rs
    Fruit vinegar(mitchells)------------------80 rs
    calcim sandoz syrup---------------------65 rs

    One purchase of above products lasts whole season do not use leftovers next time..simply throw them except calcium syrup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmed usman javed
    First of all u need to check for the pair compatibility...they should be well bonded,healthy and totally unrelated unless u r trying to establish specific line in EB's.
    Let them choose their partner by natural mate selection...
    fertility depends on both sexes but more on male bird..one mating fertiles several eggs...females have natural ability to store sperms upto 14 days in her body..so u need to increase the sperm count in males by adding high protein diets which r also rich in zinc..zinc promotes the healthy sperm production and increase the counts..Dont forget to trim the feathers around vents of both male and female..it encourages the more absorption of sperms in each mating..quantity of eggs is totally depend on female..and it is hereditary ..some females only release 2-3 egg down to their oviduct and some females r huge layers..u need to know which female is huge layer and good incubator and keep the line maintained by keeping some of her youngsters..same as cock which is more fertile keep its male chicks...
    Now pair is ready..check for its sorrounding..any thing which can distract them from mating,nesting or incubating should be avoided..when u feel female is about to lay daily check the box/matki without stressing bird too much and when u find first egg stop checking the box for next 14 days and let her finish clutch..increase the vitamins/ calcium intake by mixing some in water..Below is the list of some remedies which i used to increase hatchability rate in birds..

    Cytacon syrup(vitamin b 12)-----costs 20-25 rs.
    faraminovit (vitamins)100 gm----costs 200-225rs
    permasol (optional)----------------------170-200rs
    Fruit vinegar(mitchells)------------------80 rs
    calcim sandoz syrup---------------------65 rs

    One purchase of above products lasts whole season do not use leftovers next time..simply throw them except calcium syrup.

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    THANKS BRO FOR UR SO WELL DESCRIBED ANSWER ITS CLEARS A LOT I HOPE THIS WILL HELP FOR NEW BREEDER IN THIS HOBBY.

    BUT I WANT KNOW THE MORE INFORMATION ON DAILY SCHEDULE AND QUANTITY OF ABOVE MENTION PRODUCT,S (PER LITTER) ( I AM LOOKING FOR FARAMINOVIT VITAMINS 100 GM)BUT ITS ONLY AVAILABLE IN 1 KG PACKING WILL U PLEASE GUIDE ME FROM WHERE I CAN GET SACHE PACKING.

    YOUR COOPERATION IS HIGHLY APPRECIATED IN THIS REGARD.
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    Thanks Ahmed Usman,
    Almost all my birds are in colony since many years now. They choose and even change their partners sometimes and I let them do what they like. I have extra boxes in colony so they should select the best place. I have seen them occupying two boxes until the female lay first egg of the clutch. Their diet includes extra protiens. Seed mix according to weather and along with seed mix chanay, wheat and sunflower seed soaked in water.
    Now what really missing is that I am not separating the best youngsters from best couples. I have separated some youngs almost 1 year back and I am going to introduce boxes within 15 days InshaAllah.
    Can you elaborate the usage of the vitamins and calciums mentioned in your post. I am already using Permasol periodically.
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    I use 1 teaspoon full of permasol in 4 litter of water ...i felt last season the faraminoivit goes bad too quickly so i m giving it in soft food half teaspon in about 100 gms of SF..i m too lazy with this..jab yaad aa jay to vitamins de deta hun..apple cider vinegar(ACV) can be mixed with vitamins..10ml /litter..birds like the taste of water very much after mixing ACV..Cytacon breedign season main regular deta hun @5ml per litter..if the egg yolk is deficit in this vitamin the chick could not break the shell..
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    Are these Vitamins suitable for Finches as well?
    For the last two clutches; some pairs are throwing dead chicks out of the nest. No survivors yet!
    Don't know exactly what is the reason but I am just giving them Kangnis and lots of water.
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    Yaar u r doing same mistake as i did ...they need lots of soft food for their 1-7 day old chick...kangani is hard for the chicks to swallow..offer them chopped egg and bread for this purpose..females need soft food to produce crop milk..kangani ka dana chicks k liay kafi bara hota hay..
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    these vitamins r also suitable for finches.
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    Dear Ahmad Usman:

    Im using Vidaylin-M Syrup suggested by a Vet Surgen,
    Its full of Vitamins & Minerals,Zinc, Calcium etc,
    price is just Rs. 54/-......just look at the details:

    11 Important Vitamins plus 7 Valuable Minerals

    Vitamin A, USP………………………………….….0.9 mg
    Vitamin B1, USP……………………………….....1.5 mg
    Vitamin B2, USP…………………………………..1.5 mg
    Vitamin C, ……………………………………..…...50 mg
    Nicotinamide USP…………………….……………10 mg
    Iron………………………………………………….3 mg
    Iodine (as Potassium iodine…………….…………..75 mcg
    Calcium (as calcium carbonate, calcium lactate)…..40 mg
    Phosphorus…………………………………………43 mg
    Vitamin B6…………………………………………1mg
    Vitamin B12………………………………….……3 mcg
    Magnesium………………………………………...3 mg
    Panthenol …………………………………………5 mg
    Manganese………………………………………...0.5 mg
    Zinc………………………………….…………….0.5 mg
    Choline, NF………………………………………..5 mg
    Inositol, NF………………………………………..5 mg


    What do u think about it?
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