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    Salaam Guys

    My full name is Saboor Ghazi, I am 41 living in England Uk, I was born here, my parents originating from Gujarkhan.

    Parrots, where do I start, I have kept various parrots starting from budgerigars since I was around 10 years old, over the years i kept various types, nothing major but lovebirds, cockatiels, senegal parrots, pennants etc.

    Around about when i was 15, I became good friends with a man who lived about 1 mile near me who had probably one of the largest cockatoo collections in the uk, i didnt know this at the time, I walked up one day, knocked on his door and he was suprised to see me, most of the parrot breeders i know today are goray, in fact there is probably only 5-6 parrot breeders who are pakistani I am aware of till this date in the uk, i'm not talking about people who keep pets, but breeders who specialise and have a serious interest in parrots. Anyway, this gora was suprised to see a pakistani boy. I told him i had heard about him and he let me walk round and see his parrots. I spent 20 years at his collection, in fact in 2002 i spent nearly a full year up there nearly every day. He was called Roy, he sadly passed away around 4-5 years ago. In that time I learned from probably the greatest cockatoo breeder in the uk, he was also one of the leading pigeon and poultry breeders in the uk and was asked to judge all the major competions in the uk, europe and america. However he was a very quiet man, he didnt have many friends and he didnt like people to be aware of his parrot collection.

    In the time I was with him, I learned about the different species, I learned about feeding, I learned about hand feeding and incubation. We used to have 40-60 cockatoo chicks to feed virtually all year round. I had stopped keeping my own parrots, why keep your own when you were surrounded by birds which were like your own anyway. As time went by he became more and more successfull and i asked him to make contact with big zoo's and organisations so that they could see what he had been achieving, we made good links with some of the zoo's in the uk who's people started to come down and see what he was doing. Some of the species he was breeding were a big shock to the zoo's.

    In 2003 I travelled to work at Loro Parks breeding centre after we had made contact and discussions around our red vented cockatoo's. Under Matthias Reindshmit who is the current curator there, I was privelaged to work with over 300 of the 320 parrot species in the world including the spix macaws. Whilst i was there loro park finally managed to breed the red vented cockatoo. I learned a lot whilst I was there including the importance of science and its role in parrots. To this day many breeders rely on parrot experience, other places like zoo's have science people, to be successful you need the science married to the experience, I am a very strong beleiver in this. Loro Park is successful because it has both.

    On my return from Loro Park, I became involved with Brinsea who are one of the largest incubator manufacturers in the world. They had produced a new type of incubation machine and asked me to trial it out alongside partners in Australia and Loro Park. For the next 3-4 years I tested the machines with my incubation background and advised their customers on parrot incubation from across the world.

    I also started to work selling birds for a large private collection in the uk which i am still doing to this day. In this time I studied Parrot nutrition and also ended up keeping my own parrots. I started off with 6 pairs of african greys in 2004 which i have bred well, i then sold all of these and used the money to buy eclectus which i fell in love with at loro park, i then used the money from the eclectus to fund my latest venture which are lutino galahs. I bought my first lutino galahs in 2006 and now have 4 pairs.

    Since 2006 I have also become good friends with Harry Sissen, probably the most succesfull macaw breeder in the world, we are very very close friends now I spend a lot of time learning about the macaws from him. I have continued to help and support people with parrot diets, incubation, i wrote my own 56 page booklet about hand rearing parrots.

    Whilst at Loro Park I met a girl who was also working at the breeding centre as part of her animal studies degree, she converted to Islam and we married last March, we had a baby boy called Eisa who is 6 weeks old tomorrow. Today I have 2 pairs of greys, 4 pairs of eclectus and 4 pairs of lutino galahs, i have the odd baby greys and eclectus. I currently have a pair of greys on 4 eggs, one chick with 1 eclectus which she is feeding as i write this as i can see her on the camera. I have 2 pairs of ecelectus on eggs.

    Thats it really, over the last year I have broke most of my links with people in the parrot world apart from harry sissen (look at him on you tube or face book), I still work for the collection. I found that people were contacting me all the time for all kinds of parrot breeding problems, you give them advice and then you find out they are not doing as you told them, i got sick and tired of it. People have to learn about parrots, you have to learn about what they eat in the wild, how they nest, how they pair up, you have to understand how vitamins work, how to incubate eggs, you have to put the time and energy into this hobby. And so i became frustrated, I now only help a selected few.

    So why have i joined this site, because pakistan will always be home even though i was born here, its good to see my own people progressing and making links. Some of the advice on this forum has horrified me, i have to be honest, people giving advice should know what they are talking about, they have a responsibility to say what is right and be able to back that advice up. It sometimes happens here as well when people say they are experienced and others look up to them and they are in fact giving wrong advice. I have learnt that just because someone has 10 pairs of hyacinth macaws does not mean they know anything about hyacinths, in fact some of the people i know who have the most expensive birds are the most stupid i know, money can buy you expensive birds and for some people this becoms a status symbol, money can buy you birds but it wont help you breed them.I strongly beleive that anyone can learn from anyone. I have been to even small collections where someone is doing something and i am shocked as it is so simple and yet such a brilliant idea.

    So it will be interesting, I am keen to maybe do some simple articles which make people think about what they are doing and maybe get some debates, in the mean time i will leave it as this before i end up doing an essay.

    sab
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    Re: Sab1231

    Dear Sab,

    Thanks for your joining and information, we all welcome you on this forum. I hope you will be helpful for new comers in this hobby as already senior members doing.

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    Re: Sab1231

    Now thats what I call a solid introduction

    Welcome abroad. Hope we will learn a lot from your experience. Best wishes..
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    Re: Sab1231

    Welcome !!! : ) .. I am liking your collection already
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    Re: Sab1231

    It's going to be wonderful to have someone with your experience and knowledge here.
    Looking forward to learning from you.

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    Re: Sab1231

    Dear Saboor
    Once again welcome and hope we will Learn from your experience.
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    Welcome Saboor.
    Your introduction was very engrossing. You are blessed to have spent so much time with these wonderful creatures.
    It was kind of you to join this site with the intent of sharing your knowledge with us. I look forward to your posts.
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    Re: Sab1231

    Welcome to the forum Mr. Saboor, it's good to have someone with so vast hands on experience of our common love: parrots. Looking forward to your advice to help us better understand and care of our birds.
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    Re: Sab1231

    This is pretty impressive, hopefully ur experience will help bird keepers on this forum and ultimately birds will be benefited.
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    In order to bring me down....
    You have to be able to reach me ...
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